wily HAVE YOU TRIED THIS..4 Mon Apr 30 10:50:00 2001 Hi all.. pete is coming with this wonnerful idea for further reference.. if I may add pete, we should number it so it will help others some day and easier to find... whou do you all think? pete and danny is helping is with nice tips from arr and styles... now I want to share abit about the prog. I usually tweaked my own sounds... and very ycareful with the enflope settings, effect and level... but I found this simple patch that could sound good with just little tweaked... I name this one "Pop Piano" its a sweet and crisp sounds and suitable for pop or ballad or contemporary church songs... "Pop Piano": 1. choose the A11 piano 2. set the VDF cutoff -1 (second bar icon from left) 3. set the VDF EG -1 (third from left) 4. go to menu. choose OSC 5. set the mode to double 6. set OSC1: 006 A.Piano 3w level 60 set OSC2: 016 E.Piano 3 level 30 press rec/write to save them to your user memory.