I don't know if you guys have discovered the wonderful sax at D11 if you still have your factory preload programs in place, called "Alto Breath". This is a great sounding sax, but unfortunately, it does not have a very natural sounding vibrato when you push the joystick away from you, and none at all when you pull it toward you. Here's a little tip I discovered: Go to Program Mode, and select D11 Alto Breath. Hit the "Menu" button. Select the "VDF" box. Select the "control" tab. Where is says "Joystick -y VDF MG intensity", change the value from "0" to "3". Play a note of the sax and hold it. Pull TOWARD YOU the joystick. Listen to the natural sounding vibrato you just created! Glen